tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post117569816286274556..comments2023-10-31T05:03:38.910-07:00Comments on Letters from a broad...: Subtle (but important) details...C. L. Hansonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12698855413639518095noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1176016954190936052007-04-08T00:22:00.000-07:002007-04-08T00:22:00.000-07:00Thanks Joe!!!Here's the precise link: Remember, sa...Thanks Joe!!!<BR/><BR/>Here's the precise link: <A HREF="http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2007/04/remember_say_it_with_a_smile.php" REL="nofollow">Remember, say it with a smile!</A><BR/><BR/>On the exmo/DAMU boards and blogs, people often talk about how they deal with the mishies now that they're no longer Mormon, but it's also interesting to see how nevermos deal with them!!! My favorite response, though, was the video of those two Australian atheists who went tracting in SLC!!! I wish I had the link handy for that one... ;^)C. L. Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12698855413639518095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1176016380113535772007-04-08T00:13:00.000-07:002007-04-08T00:13:00.000-07:00c.l.---over at Pharyngula there is an interesting ...c.l.---over at Pharyngula there is an interesting discussion of how people handle visiting lds and/or jw missionaries. A number of the contributors are godless ex-lds/jw. <BR/> Take a look---JoeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1175867285338337462007-04-06T06:48:00.000-07:002007-04-06T06:48:00.000-07:00Hey Kullervo!!!Exactly!!!Hey Kullervo!!!<BR/><BR/>Exactly!!!C. L. Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12698855413639518095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1175859607782340342007-04-06T04:40:00.000-07:002007-04-06T04:40:00.000-07:00I also think the "Mormonism conflicts with mainstr...I also think the "Mormonism conflicts with mainstream Christianity so Mormonisn is false and EVIL!!!" line of criticism to be pretty damn lame.<BR/><BR/>Mormonism has plenty of reasons why it's false without even referencing other religions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1175847459749679252007-04-06T01:17:00.000-07:002007-04-06T01:17:00.000-07:00Hey Johnny!!!"Wheel of apostasy" -- that's a good ...Hey Johnny!!!<BR/><BR/>"Wheel of apostasy" -- that's a good way of putting it... :DC. L. Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12698855413639518095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1175830313362196072007-04-05T20:31:00.000-07:002007-04-05T20:31:00.000-07:00If the only face you know of the apostate is what ...<I>If the only face you know of the apostate is what apostates look like to Mormons, you'll come up with a flatter, less lifelike portrait of your character than you will if you've seen apostates from another perspective: what they look like to other apostates.</I><BR/><BR/>Amen-<BR/><BR/>I think that "flattened picture" of apostates is one of the most frustrating things about being one. When I get to explain my position to others I tell them to try to keep me off of the "wheel of apostacy." But for some reason there is always a place to squeeze me into.Texashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01545960049342385798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1175796506242674962007-04-05T11:08:00.000-07:002007-04-05T11:08:00.000-07:00Thanks Catherine!!!I'm interested in Mormon lit --...Thanks Catherine!!!<BR/><BR/>I'm interested in Mormon lit -- even the faithful stuff (I'm willing to look at it from the author's perspective) -- but it's true the stereotypes about apostates full of absurd errors are grating.<BR/><BR/>In my family's case, we've had enough happy, successful apostates that the extended family is used to it, which is cool. Given the positive contributions of <A HREF="http://mikeandjohn.com/pics/blog.asp" REL="nofollow">my brother</A> to Mormon history, it's hard to paint apostates as hateful and angry, even with respect to Mormonism...C. L. Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12698855413639518095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1175792948589628132007-04-05T10:09:00.000-07:002007-04-05T10:09:00.000-07:00You know, I've still never seen the Godmakers but ...You know, I've still never seen the Godmakers but I remember feeling the warnings of the spirit whenever it was mentioned when I was a teenager. I thought that was what all "anti" stuff was like.<BR/><BR/>I love the rewritten part about exmormon.org. When I left the mormon church my sis reacted just like that - "you're not like those angry people on RfM are you?" <BR/><BR/>I was shocked that she'd even heard of it. I think it still boggles my family's mind that I'm a reasonable person with a pretty typical happy life and not some whacked out evangelical or pissed off prostitute drug dealer.Catherinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09786690299330330126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1175711030714287242007-04-04T11:23:00.000-07:002007-04-04T11:23:00.000-07:00Thanks Mel!!!I hadn't really made the parallel wit...Thanks Mel!!!<BR/><BR/>I hadn't really made the parallel with having a stack of copies of <I>The Book of Mormon</I> to distribute vs. the same for <I>The Godmakers</I>, but now that you mention it....<BR/><BR/>That's great if you're interested in reading my novel!!! Just email me (<I>chanson dot exmormon at gmail dot com</I>) and I can send you an electronic copy. :DC. L. Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12698855413639518095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1175709860676940472007-04-04T11:04:00.000-07:002007-04-04T11:04:00.000-07:00CL, I think you make a very good point about portr...CL, I think you make a very good point about portraying characters in a believable manner. And what is more believable to a TBM than an exmo who's batshit crazy? -- IOW, one who has replaced the traveling collection of Book of Mormons with The Godmakers?<BR/><BR/>Above all, to portray an apostate in any other light than as a crazy-ass, deluded liar would go against the deepest Mormon ethos which is planted in the soil of Nauvoo and has its roots in the Book of Mormon's depiction of apostates and anti-christs. Nowhere in Mormon tradition are the enemies of the church given more depth than a keystone cop.<BR/><BR/>We exmormons are the ones who have to show the world the truth about exmormons because this particular truth is outside the Mormon worldview. Thank you for writing <EM>Exmormon</EM>. You are a pioneer...and I just realized why I need to read it and evangelize it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1175707939515716522007-04-04T10:32:00.000-07:002007-04-04T10:32:00.000-07:00Thanks Aerin!!!Here's a funny coincidence about yo...Thanks Aerin!!!<BR/><BR/>Here's a funny coincidence about your husband's family history -- Ben's Scottish wife (pictured <A HREF="http://lfab-uvm.blogspot.com/2006/06/men-in-kilts.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>) descends from Irish people who settled in Scotland!!!<BR/><BR/>But when I wrote this post I was thinking more of the Mike Myers SNL sketch where he has a Scottish store with the slogan "If it's not Scottish, it's crap!" and he throws somebody out for asking for leprechauns... ;-)C. L. Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12698855413639518095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1175706571115537022007-04-04T10:09:00.000-07:002007-04-04T10:09:00.000-07:00I agree - the Godmakers is very confusing and diff...I agree - the Godmakers is very confusing and difficult to follow. <BR/><BR/>I'm also impressed that you ended up attending BYU despite the fact that you had stopped believing - BYU was in the same range as Oral Roberts at that point for me. <BR/><BR/>I will say - my husband is actually descended from Scottish people who re-settled/colonized Ireland. Is he Scottish-American? Irish-American? Who knows.<BR/><BR/>But it is an important distinction - because not all exmos are alike. And I felt the protrayal in your novel of the mormons, former mormons and everyone in between was accurate. The characters did not fit molds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com