tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post115747538807042693..comments2023-10-31T05:03:38.910-07:00Comments on Letters from a broad...: A handy guide to different types of MormonsC. L. Hansonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12698855413639518095noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-11227927909694523532012-06-11T12:32:26.348-07:002012-06-11T12:32:26.348-07:00Really liked this article and the comments. I read...Really liked this article and the comments. I read this to make sure I referencing term correctly, and then I wrote "How to be a Jack Mormon" http://www.theculturalhallpodcast.com/2012/06/how-to-be-a-jack-mormon/<br />Thought your readers might like it too.Carlihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07304904729729095523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-81104603118293527892008-10-15T04:47:00.000-07:002008-10-15T04:47:00.000-07:00Hey Anonymous!!!Hmmm, not sure. It probably depen...Hey Anonymous!!!<BR/><BR/>Hmmm, not sure. It probably depends on whether they feel Mormon or not.C. L. Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12698855413639518095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-71331461977261577152008-10-14T13:19:00.000-07:002008-10-14T13:19:00.000-07:00What about the all the foster children who were ba...What about the all the foster children who were baptised into the church?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1163067385919898802006-11-09T02:16:00.000-08:002006-11-09T02:16:00.000-08:00Hi From the Ashes!!!I don't claim this as a defini...Hi From the Ashes!!!<BR/><BR/>I don't claim this as a definitive list -- if you've got some interesting additional ones, I'll come have a look once you've posted them.C. L. Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12698855413639518095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1163023951265518742006-11-08T14:12:00.000-08:002006-11-08T14:12:00.000-08:00Oh! I was just thinking about making this type of ...Oh! I was just thinking about making this type of list on my blog, but I googled "types of Mormons" and found that you already did it!<BR/><BR/>Maybe I'll do it anyway, and delve more into the problematic of labels.from the asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10505277568750065742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1158513642801226262006-09-17T10:20:00.000-07:002006-09-17T10:20:00.000-07:00Thanks John!!!I knew you'd be the one who'd have a...Thanks John!!!<BR/><BR/>I knew you'd be the one who'd have all the scoop on the various non-Brighamite branches!!! :D<BR/><BR/>It seems like among the "Rocky Mountain Saints" the term "Mormon" is the broader term for the people and the culture and the term "LDS" is the one that more narrowly refers to the corresponding religious practice and belief. It's logical since "Mormon" sounds more like the name of a tribe whereas "LDS" has the obvious "Saint" aspect...<BR/><BR/>It's too bad that most of the other restoration churches have reversed this, using "LDS" as the blanket term and "Mormon" more exclusively (excluding themselves).<BR/><BR/>Personally, I'd rather identify as "cultural Mormon" than "cultural LDS" -- because of the tradition vs. religion aspect, not because I consider those guys to be part of a separate tradition.<BR/><BR/>I suppose it's too much to hope that they'll change their terminology? ;-)C. L. Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12698855413639518095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1158508080418600192006-09-17T08:48:00.000-07:002006-09-17T08:48:00.000-07:00So, to answer your question about the broader Latt...So, to answer your question about the broader Latter Day Saint movement, here are some more terms.<BR/><BR/>The broader movement: "Latter Day Saint movement" or "Latter Day Restoration movement" or some variation. <BR/><BR/>"Latter Day Saint" as a term is inclusive of the whole movement, while "Latter-day Saint" would refer specifically to members of the large Utah church. Members of the Community of Christ and others call themselves "Latter Day Saints". The exception to this is the Bickertonites who don't use the term. They refer to the movement as the "Restoration."<BR/><BR/>"Rocky Mountain Saint" --- broadly, anyone relating to the Brighamite branch of Mormonism, including members of the LDS church and also Mormon Fundamentalists.<BR/><BR/>"Prairie Saint" --- broadly, anybody relating to the branches of Mormonism based in the Midwestern US. <BR/><BR/>"Great Lakes Saint" --- a term occasionally used for Strangites.<BR/><BR/>"Great Lakes Mormon" or "Strangite Mormon" --- the Strangites are Midwestern group that uses the term "Mormon" to refer to themselves.<BR/><BR/>All manner of "-ite" names.<BR/><BR/>"Twelvite" --- After Brigham Young's first coup (1844) but before his second coup (1847), his followers are properly refered to as "Twelvites."<BR/><BR/>"Brighamite" --- Refers to any group that traces its origins to Brigham Young (including Mormon fundamentalists), but is usually reserved for members of the large Utah church.<BR/><BR/>"Josephite" --- Refers to any group that traces its origins through Joseph Smith III.<BR/><BR/>"Strangite" (ditto James Strang), "Hedrickite" (Granville Hedrick), "Rigdonite" (Sidney Rigdon), "Bickertonite" (William Bickerton), "Whitmerite" (David Whitmer), "Morrisite" (Joseph Morris), "Thompsonite" (Charles B. Thompson), "Wightite" or "Lymanite" (Lyman Wight), "Cutlerite" (Alpheus Cutler), "Godbeite" (William Godbe), etc.<BR/><BR/>"Restorationist" is a term generally used by fundamentalists (non-polygamous of course) in the RLDS tradition --- many are members of the "Independent Restoration Branch" movement. Others have organized in churches such as the Remnant Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1158438350519585472006-09-16T13:25:00.000-07:002006-09-16T13:25:00.000-07:00Hey John!!!You're pretty hard-core for an atheist!...Hey John!!!<BR/><BR/>You're pretty hard-core for an atheist!!!<BR/><BR/>For the moment I'm sticking with exmo / cultural Mormon... :DC. L. Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12698855413639518095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1158436273748730942006-09-16T12:51:00.000-07:002006-09-16T12:51:00.000-07:00I think I'm going to stop using the term "ExMormon...I think I'm going to stop using the term "ExMormon" in reference to myself any more. I've decided that I'm a schismatic Mormon. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1158010370098825892006-09-11T14:32:00.000-07:002006-09-11T14:32:00.000-07:00Hey Matt!!!Like I said, I'm no expert, but you sou...Hey Matt!!!<BR/><BR/>Like I said, I'm no expert, but you sound like a classic NOM to me. :D<BR/><BR/>Thanks John!!!<BR/><BR/>I'm glad my friends and I have shown you that exmos can be perfectly nice, reasonable, non-bitter people. That message has got to be at least half of my purpose in blogging. ;-)C. L. Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12698855413639518095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1157993117520257532006-09-11T09:45:00.000-07:002006-09-11T09:45:00.000-07:00"Practicing" is relative, I guess... somewhat in t..."Practicing" is relative, I guess... somewhat in the eyes of the beholder. I continue to attend Sunday meetings, and even hold a calling. As such, a Post-Mormon would probably call me "practicing". However, my "beliefs" and behaviors are decidedly outside the Mormon boundaries... were they known by my fellow TBM's, they'd certainly call me "non-practicing".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1157974020600189202006-09-11T04:27:00.000-07:002006-09-11T04:27:00.000-07:00Hey Matt!!!Great timeline!!!I'm not totally sure w...Hey Matt!!!<BR/><BR/>Great timeline!!!<BR/><BR/>I'm not totally sure what I mean by "practicing" either. ;^)<BR/><BR/>If you're a self-identified NOM and a part of that community, then you probably know better than I do what level of activity is involved...<BR/><BR/>Hey anonymous!!!<BR/><BR/>Always happy to hear from more gay jack Mormons. :DC. L. Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12698855413639518095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1157718299564232962006-09-08T05:24:00.000-07:002006-09-08T05:24:00.000-07:00I'm a gay Mormon, but I believe I fall into the Ja...I'm a gay Mormon, but I believe I fall into the Jack Mormon category, so I don't really need my own gay category...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1157673634426839442006-09-07T17:00:00.000-07:002006-09-07T17:00:00.000-07:00I agree with your definition of a "Jack Mormon".My...I agree with your definition of a "Jack Mormon".<BR/><BR/>My lifeline, according to your definitions.<BR/><BR/>From age 0 to 24 I was a True-Believing Mormon (TBM).<BR/><BR/>From age 24 to 28 I was a Jack Daniels Mormon, er, I mean Jack Mormon.<BR/><BR/>From age 29 to 33 I was a Liberal Mormon.<BR/><BR/>From age 34 to 37 I was/am a New Order Mormon. (Although, I'm not sure was "practice Mormonism" means... does it mean I obey all of the commandments, or I attend meetings and have a calling, or both?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1157604749092917722006-09-06T21:52:00.000-07:002006-09-06T21:52:00.000-07:00Hey AZ Expositor!!!I like using the term "apostate...Hey AZ Expositor!!!<BR/><BR/>I like using the term "apostate" too for essentially the same reason -- they think I should be ashamed of it but I'm not. ;-)<BR/><BR/>Hey Freckle Face Girl!!!<BR/><BR/>I think you qualify as exmo.<BR/><BR/>For me, I guess the ones that fit are the following: exmormon, ethnic Mormon, mission-field Mormon, inactive Mormon, and apostate.<BR/><BR/>Hey Cynthia!!!<BR/><BR/>I hope you're feeling better!!! And I hope this illness hasn't put too much of a damper on the progress you were making on your novel.<BR/><BR/>Personally I've always heard that belief is the difference between an exmo and a jackmo: The exmo runs into the jackmo at a bar, and while discussing the church over a few beers, the jackmo will say the prophet is inspired and the exmo will say he isn't. ;-)<BR/><BR/>I may be wrong about that though...<BR/><BR/>And yes, you're an ethnic Utah exmo! :D<BR/><BR/>Hey Watt!!!<BR/><BR/>That's a good one too!!! You may be right that it applies to all Mormons today, but I think it was less the case thirty years ago.C. L. Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12698855413639518095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1157587842613542822006-09-06T17:10:00.000-07:002006-09-06T17:10:00.000-07:00How about a "Buffet Mormon" ... rather synonymous ...How about a "<A HREF="http://mormanarchy.net/?p=26" REL="nofollow">Buffet Mormon</A>" ... rather synonymous with a liberal Mormon in usage, though I'm convinced that ALL Mormons are Buffet Mormons.<BR/><BR/>Question: what is the mormon equivalent of mashed potatoes?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1157584115095601752006-09-06T16:08:00.000-07:002006-09-06T16:08:00.000-07:00Hi C.L. Just trying to get back from a bout of ill...Hi C.L. Just trying to get back from a bout of illness..<BR/><BR/>I fit in the ex-mo but I always thought that Jack Mormons didn't believe in the Mormon doctrine... will have to quit calling myself that... also my family are "ethnic mos and Utah mos." So does that make me an ethnic Utah ex-mo?<BR/><BR/>;-)Cyn Bagleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08404416186783891402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1157571852822336852006-09-06T12:44:00.000-07:002006-09-06T12:44:00.000-07:00Here's my list:Inactive Mormon - except not MIA th...Here's my list:<BR/>Inactive Mormon - except not MIA thanks to TBM family that orders Ensigns & the Friend for me<BR/>Semi-Utah Mormon - lived there off & on <BR/>Semi-Mission Field Mormon - other places I've lived<BR/>Ethnic Mormon - for generations on both sides<BR/>Cultural Mormon - can't help it<BR/>BIC - my parents met at BYU<BR/><BR/>I guess partly exmo. I see it more as an association/club. I don't mind attending for family functions. Mainly, I think all organized religion takes over your life and I don't believe their hype.Freckle Face Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13324960438835000817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1157566997555587852006-09-06T11:23:00.000-07:002006-09-06T11:23:00.000-07:00Right now I prefer recovering mormon, and while my...Right now I prefer recovering mormon, and while my name is officially on the LDS membership roll I don't feel mormon anymore.<BR/><BR/>As for apostate my TBM wife hates that term, and more so when I say it with pride. She feels I should be ashamed of it, and of course I tell her that I am not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1157566068987281632006-09-06T11:07:00.000-07:002006-09-06T11:07:00.000-07:00Hey Sinister Porpoise!!!Of course!!! How'd I forg...Hey Sinister Porpoise!!!<BR/><BR/>Of course!!! How'd I forget that one?C. L. Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12698855413639518095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1157565845108214732006-09-06T11:04:00.000-07:002006-09-06T11:04:00.000-07:00You forgot BIC Mormon... that is someone born to p...You forgot BIC Mormon... that is someone born to parents who were sealed in the temple.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1157556641404226612006-09-06T08:30:00.000-07:002006-09-06T08:30:00.000-07:00Hey Holly!!!I've never heard that acronym as "Non-...Hey Holly!!!<BR/><BR/>I've never heard that acronym as "Non-Orthodox Mormon" but you're right -- that one works too!!!<BR/><BR/>Hey Equality!!!<BR/><BR/>I was being a little tongue-in-cheek about the term "apostate" because it's already a loaded term that means different things to different people. As I was saying to Holly recently, I sometimes like to identify as "apostate" for fun the way gay people have claimed the word "queer", but I don't think it's realistic to expect religious people to accept a positive definition for the word...<BR/><BR/>Hey Freckle Face Girl!!!<BR/><BR/>I fit several as well!!! I was thinking of asking commenters to mention which types apply to them... ;^)C. L. Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12698855413639518095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1157553150419260112006-09-06T07:32:00.000-07:002006-09-06T07:32:00.000-07:00Great list! I guess I fit into several. :)Great list! I guess I fit into several. :)Freckle Face Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13324960438835000817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1157550754753070352006-09-06T06:52:00.000-07:002006-09-06T06:52:00.000-07:00holly:"non Orthodox Mormon." Love it. Yes, it fi...holly:<BR/><BR/>"non Orthodox Mormon." Love it. Yes, it fits perfectly. I don't think any NOMs would quarrel with that appelation.<BR/><BR/>CH:<BR/><BR/>I object to the description of apostates as those who have "fallen away" from the church. it implies that the church is on higher moral ground relative to the apostate (that the apostate has "fallen.") it also implies a certain level of passivity that I think is not generally present among apostates: they haven't simply "fallen," they have actively, deliberately, usually quite thoughtfully, distanced themselves from the church. The "falling away" language plays right intot he hands of the orthodox Mormons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1157548993183618842006-09-06T06:23:00.000-07:002006-09-06T06:23:00.000-07:00Huh. I guess I needed this: I thought NOM stood ...Huh. I guess I needed this: I thought NOM stood for "non orthodox Mormon."<BR/><BR/>I can't keep all those Mos straight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com