tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post116781621821814304..comments2023-10-31T05:03:38.910-07:00Comments on Letters from a broad...: Why Exmormon?C. L. Hansonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12698855413639518095noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1168843821101787852007-01-14T22:50:00.000-08:002007-01-14T22:50:00.000-08:00Thanks BAEJ!!!Actually, I have some weird problem ...Thanks BAEJ!!!<BR/><BR/>Actually, I have some weird problem with my system here that prevents video files from playing correctly, but as soon as I get it fixed, it's good to have this one where I can find it!!! :D<BR/><BR/>Hey Kalvin!!!<BR/><BR/>An update will be coming very soon!!! :D<BR/><BR/>Hey John!!!<BR/><BR/>I'm sure you're right, but I'm not changing the title because I'm just that ornery. ;-)<BR/><BR/>My strategy is that someday I'll write another novel -- one with a reasonable title -- and once everyone reads and loves that one, they'll come back and read this one despite its crazy title.<BR/><BR/>You're right about those CoC guys having a naming problem. Their first choice "RLDS" was bad because it basically makes them look like a shadow of the larger Utah church.<BR/><BR/>The FLDS, by contrast, have good branding. By tacking on the word "fundamentalist" they're acknowledging the big LDS church while saying "we're the real ones." To many people the word "fundamentalist" connotes "crazy, potentially dangerous extremist," but again that kind of goes with their market niche considering how far outside the mainstream they are...<BR/><BR/>Regarding your ideas for the title of the CoC history book, all three of those are pretty good considering what you've got to work with. It would be better if they hadn't rejected the label "Mormon" though -- then you could have come up with something shorter and more pithy...C. L. Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12698855413639518095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1168811897009355912007-01-14T13:58:00.000-08:002007-01-14T13:58:00.000-08:00I think I'm one of the people who agree that you s...I think I'm one of the people who agree that you should have come up with a name like "Gone with the Wind..." or something. Something that <I>sounds</I> like a novel.<BR/><BR/>Naming things is always tricky and always important. <I>"ExMormon"</I> tells me we're talking about ExMormons (clearly), but it doesn't tell me that I'm getting a novel.<BR/><BR/>I say this as I've been pondering branding in the liberal Latter Day Saint tradition of the Community of Christ. It's clear that "Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" was a bad name. There are advantages and disadvantages to the new brand, "Community of Christ." One disadvantage is that there's no identity for the membership: e.g., "Community of Christ-ians". <BR/><BR/>I've been trying to come up with a name for a new faithful history of the Community of Christ. What a mess! So far, my favorite concepts are: <I>The Book of R: Latter Day Saints of the Community of Christ</I> OR <I>The Reorganization: The Community of Christ and Latter Day Saint History</I> OR <I>Liberal Latter Day Saints: The Community of Christ Story</I><BR/><BR/>In another example of problematic titling, our historians association "JWHA" (the "John Whitmer Historical Association") has a terrible name but there aren't any "silver bullet" alternatives.<BR/><BR/>All "Mormons" have had this problem from Day 1. Which is why even the Utah church is saddled with the abyssmal "The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints"...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1168495449509817132007-01-10T22:04:00.000-08:002007-01-10T22:04:00.000-08:00This does sound like a nice theory break, and most...This does sound like a nice theory break, and most mormons would say that anything that doesn't end in a temple wedding and generations of offspring and having your second endowment and calling and election made sure and you going into the temple to wash his feet is a failure and anti-mormon, but I'm sure it's not. Keep us updated.Kalv1nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12105726258904259151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1167956414208612742007-01-04T16:20:00.000-08:002007-01-04T16:20:00.000-08:00Here you go.Enjoy:)<A HREF="http://www.dailymotion.com/flash/flvplayer.swf?rev=1166152697&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymotion.com%2Fget%2F402%2F320x240%2Fflv%2F273700.flv%3Fkey%3Dc8483655e142005fb11102c1a7e0dca812922c9%26log%3D1%26log_blog_key%3D3AXGew5tHuktD19cw%26log_referer%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.alluc.org%252Falluc%252Fshowmovie.php%253Fuid%253D8779&previewURL=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.dailymotion.com%2Fdyn%2Fpreview%2F320x240%2F273700.jpg%3F20060620064020&autoStart=0&playerURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymotion.com%2Fvideo%2Fx5v6s_712-all-about-mormons&estatEnabled=1&estatClient=players_dm&estatSection=blog" REL="nofollow">Here you go</A>.<BR/><BR/>Enjoy:)Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1167949350581683032007-01-04T14:22:00.000-08:002007-01-04T14:22:00.000-08:00Hey BAEJ!!!I haven't seen it but I want to!!!I've ...Hey BAEJ!!!<BR/><BR/>I haven't seen it but I want to!!!<BR/><BR/>I've read the transcript, and it sounds hilarious and right on the money!!!<BR/><BR/>Some have complained that it promotes the LDS church's (questionable) claim that Mormonism promotes happy families, however considering the treatment of the very familiar story of the pages of the BoM that Joseph Smith lost, they might as well be kinder and gentler on the other facets of Mormonism...<BR/><BR/>This one quote sums it up perfectly:<BR/><BR/>"No, it's a matter of logic! If you're gonna say things that have been proven wrong, like that the first man and woman lived in Missouri, and that Native Americans came from Jerusalem, then you'd better have something to back it up. All you've got are a bunch of stories about some asswipe who read plates nobody ever saw out of a hat, and then couldn't do it again when the translations were hidden!"C. L. Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12698855413639518095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1167947877505819542007-01-04T13:57:00.000-08:002007-01-04T13:57:00.000-08:00Just wondering if you ever saw the South Park epis...Just wondering if you ever saw the South Park episode on Mormons and what you thought about it.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1167928754685310822007-01-04T08:39:00.000-08:002007-01-04T08:39:00.000-08:00Thanks Rebecca!!!It's true that a third-person nar...Thanks Rebecca!!!<BR/><BR/>It's true that a third-person narrator isn't necessarily giving you the "objective scoop" by definition. Actually, it might be kind of fun to write a story in third person where it's clear that the anonymous narrator has a wacky biased perspective and the reader ends up asking "Wait a minute -- who the hell is telling this story here?" ;-)<BR/><BR/>But that's not what I was going for in this particular novel. Maybe next time!!! :DC. L. Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12698855413639518095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19053670.post-1167922610849937222007-01-04T06:56:00.000-08:002007-01-04T06:56:00.000-08:00I don't think there's NO plot. I loved that the c...I don't think there's NO plot. I loved that the characters' stories got all intertwiney. Although, I'll admit, I would have liked to get MORE about the characters. I was so interested in most of them that I wanted to have another chapter or two from their points of view. Also, I KNOW that you know this, but I still feel compelled to point it out (because I am an insufferable know-it-all who is ignorant of her ignorance) - the third person narrative can be limited, and can also be unreliable -- doesn't have to be objective. Anyway, I LIKE that you have the narrative from the different characters' points-of-view (like culs-de-sac. Heeheehee!).Rebeccahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10006115623631732544noreply@blogger.com